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My basic standpoint is that war is not the opposite of peace. A point I have made before.
War is what results from the lack of harmony between yin and yang in the world, the lack of balance between the masculine and feminine energies which Daoism seeks to address and resolve in the alchemical practices. There is never a “reason” for war. It is always a result of unresolved psychological energies that are created by lack of spiritual connection. War is the ultimate expression of the insanity of the frustrations of the ego struggling in its fear. Peace happens when the individual and society have a strong spiritual connection – the consciousness of themselves as part of IT all.
The world we live in has been ruled by the people who Dylan so well points to, but they are in power because of the density of people’s consciousness. It is only with the permission of the masses that the few are in power, and as the conscious force of the earth rises and people continue to wake up the few will no longer be able to control things here. This has clearly already begun.
As the spiritual consciousness settles in, people will simply start to see things differently and take actions based on the unity they feel rather than the separation they used to feel. What stands in the way now is the remainder of the resistance of our mass ego which is afraid of change and afraid of what merging with spirit really means. Ego, at this stage, believes that merging with spirit means its death and so it fights against truth and freedom. This is what spawns and supports the James Randis and George Bushes of the world. Not for much longer, thank goodness.
It may seem that I am espousing what I believe in to be the real truth. But when we are in our right minds we do not contemplate taking actions based on fear and separation thinking. We take actions that stem organically from our oneness with the source. THIS is the root of Daoism – communication and relationship with the Source/Being, and expression that flows from that. So while there may have been people who practiced their version of Daoism and who went to war, that is still an expression of being unclear and unresolved. And it is very important to remember that what has transpired in the past has done so because of where the world was capable of being at the time, and these times are quite different. We are not here to repeat what has happened but to move onto an entirely new plane of consciousness. So, while you, Pietro, are saying that: “…there are times, according to some tao masters, when war is necessary,” I am saying: Not anymore. Those times are over.
Peace and Blessings
AlexanderPietro, what it may be is a possible rising of a middle path, yes without war.
I gave up the idea of ‘war’ about 10 years ago, one day I decided not to ‘fight’ anymore, I told my partner then that I did not plan to battle with him any longer.As I don’t battle in our present context, and he as well , despite his warrior attitude, has learned that ‘war’ is the worst possible option.
So today we find ourselves on a path in the middle (not a traditional divorce and not a traditional marriage) and see like the Universe is listening it provides tools to work this out in the best possible way. Yesterday he asked me how this was possible that things he was striving for for years with all his intention and will, it never worked, and now in just a couple of days, things he was hunting for in the past starting to become reality very natural.
There is just one answer, openness. Because of our working through things, he is letting go his black and white vision, he is opening up to new realities, things he was sure he would never agree with two weeks ago are now not so sure anymore.
and see the Universe is blessing him with gifts and even more he starts to realize that war, be it on a small scale, be it on a larger scale is the worst option. That if fact there IS a path in between.Against all odds I am a believer, I have my dreams, my hopes and my intuition that is guiding me on this middle path, and even if the rest of the world is still living in a black and white dimension I will strive for a rainbow.
BUT I am NOT alone…My daughters are always asking how it comes I always find the rainbows first.
I tell them always to look in the sky as well always to look on the earth, both hold wisdom to guide us, and if we listen and look to both, the sky and the earth, we know how to walk in beauty on this planets surface.
So I agree with Alexander, I believe it is possible, and maybe we are dreamers, yet dreams can come true… but it means we have to change, let go, work through, accept, open up and believe.I understand your scepticism and your disappointment, but is it not so that in fact you really want this as well…
Enjoy the day
I’m sorry but this thread was about the unjustified war against muslims which you jumped in on at the end so the points I where making were signals and not noise.
Hi Pietro,
With regard to what will happen next – I cannot exactly predict because that is determined by the lifeforce resolving the inherent issues through humanity, and that is determined by humanity choosing to hold on or to let go of control. Right now, the heat is on and the soup is cooking.
Both through an inner sense of the time and through the evidence both in society and from space (meaning the changes that are evident in the solar system) one can tell that changes are upon us. Also, there are the predictions of the time made by so many ancient cultures like the Hopi and the Maya. But beyond all proofs which are external, there is inner knowing. And in the end only that is sufficient proof for anyone to be satisfied by.
The new energies do not support separation consciousness. They support unity consciousness. And that is because that is the way of the Dao. Humanity has only two choices now- either flow with it or be drowned. How and when this transpires cannot be exactly known. What I can tell you is that no enlightened culture attacks itself. It works on the Aloha principle which treats everyone as family because unity consciousness sees everyone as family. Unity consciousness is spirit manifested in people. Separation consciousness is the fear-induced insanity in the ego manifested in people.
There is a level in every human being where the individual can feel and sense what is going on. It is instinctual and intuitive and it is in the heart. The heart-mind takes its direction from heaven, and the natural course of events is “to return.” It is not a question of “if” but of “when” and “how.” But, of course, those three are questions in the head not the heart. When one intends to create something one does not focus on those three things (when, if, how) because that scatters the energy by bringing in doubt. One focuses on the “what.” What I want to create is harmony, so I focus on that and assume that my intention will manifest somehow because I know that harmony is totally supported by the Dao. Our minds make up questions based on our propensity to doubt and to want to screw up things because we don’t like ourselves.
The middle path that Wendy reminds us of is where it’s at. And those of us who deliberately promote the radical new view are visionaries. (I prefer this word to “dreamers.”) The job of the visionary is to see what is possible and then somehow hold that energy and communicate it to the world around them. The new view never makes sense to the old mind (Great spirits have always been violently opposed by mediocre minds.” -Albert Einstein) Yet it is the job of the developing human to learn how to change and move up the spiral. The present shift in human consciousness is so huge that the resistance to it from most of society is enormous. But that doesn’t matter. It is happening anyway. The shift requires that we stop believing in thinking and believe in ourselves. Survival mode thinking is based on lack of proper connection to the source and therefore lack of trust in it. It is full of fear. (This fear has been keeping people from being able to tell themselves the truth about what is going on in the world and that is why it has gotten so bad out there.) This has produced separation consciouness and suffering. The old mind cannot conceive of how to do this shift and mostly doesn’t want to. That is why the most important part of the work is in realizing that the old way was just a way, a suit of beliefs, and not what we are. We are the spirit that can use any belief it wants. As we REMEMBER this fact we free ourselves from the attachment to our thinking which caused all the karma we have now. This is what The Return is – remembering and realizing the Way. This is what focus on the middle path brings us and why meditation on the One is essential.
The hidden step in this process is to deal with the guilt that we collectively feel from having judged ourselves for our supposed “fall from grace.” The Adam and Eve story tells us that we chose to experience good and evil when we knew nothing of it before. The purpose of this experiment has been to develop our ability to chose unity consciousness WILLINGLY so that all our actions as creator beings in the universe would stem from ONENESS and LOVE because we know through experience that that is what we really want. I believe this is what true mastery and immortality is and that all our excursions on earth have been for the learning of this wisdom. It makes us trustworthy consorts of the Dao- wise and healthy creators making universes for the source which are wholesome, beautiful and unique.
So, Generalissimo Pietro, that’s my soliloquoy for the evening. I hope you and everyone else has enjoyed it.
Love, peace and happiness,
AlexanderI agree with both Wendy and Alexander, well said!
Whatever someone focuses on is what they will get. If you believe in war, you will find it, if you believe in harmonizing without conflict, that is what you will get.
Rather than saying Daoists believe in war, I think it is more effective to say that a unifying concept in Daoism is that of balance and harmony. At some times in history, war may have been an unwelcome necessity for survival but not the first choice. Most wars today are not being fought for survival but for economic, political and religious reasons.
Humanity is undergoing part of a larger shift, and our ability to forge a new reality for ourselves depends on our will to do so. Whatever you WANT is what you’ll GET. When you find your self on one side or another side with a battle to fight its time to consider if what you are doing is really worth it.
Thus using your free will to cultivate what you want to achieve on the inner planes is the fastest way to remember and achieve unity with the immortal aspect of your self in balance and harmony, and create a new reality on earth that supports it because as has been said by many, its already happening (happened)! All we have to do is enjoy the ride and assist it through our own work. Our nameless source is there to support us every step of the way.
So, instead of trying to find out who is right or wrong, why not try to find out where the middle road is? What is your CHOICE? If you can hold unconditional acceptance to allow harmony and balance through development of free will, where is there room for competition?
“If you do not strive with others, you will be free from blame”
-Lao ZiGreat talk so far folks!
And just think – all this started with the piece about the year of the Pig.I am now reading a great little book- The Book of Balance and Harmony, a 13th century compilation of alchemical text translated by Thomas Cleary. This is one of my favorite passages – relevant to the discussion of moving into a new comsciousness devoid of fear. -A
“When you are calm and stable, careful of attention, the celestial design is always clear, open awareness is unobscured; then you have autonomy in action and can deal with whatever arises. With the maturation of practice of calm stability, one spontaneously arrives at this true restoration of the infinite, where the subtle responsive function of the absolute is clear and the design of the universe and all things is complete in oneself.”
Anyone who say that Sun Tzu believed war was the last resort doesn’t understand Sun Tzu. He believed armed forces were the last resort because there are easier ways to defeat the enemy.
“The master conqueror frustrated his enemy’s plans and broke up his alliances. He created cleavages between sovereign and minister, superiors and inferiors, commanders and subordinates. His spies and agents were active everywhere, gathering information, sowing dissension, and nurturing subversion. The enemy was isolated and demoralized; his will to resist broken. Thus without battle his army was conquered, his cities taken and his state overthrown. Only when the enemy could not be overcome by these means was there recourse to armed force.”
War will never be over until it is over. And right now, war isn’t over. The new consciousness is an interesting idea. I’ve played the believing game and I finally came to the conclusion that I can ignore it until it happens. I can not live in the future, only the present. Some day my car may use hydrogen rather than gasoline, but that doesn’t mean that I can pretend that my car use hydrogen today.
“The new consciousness is an interesting idea. I’ve played the believing game and I finally came to the conclusion that I can ignore it until it happens. I can not live in the future, only the present. Some day my car may use hydrogen rather than gasoline, but that doesn’t mean that I can pretend that my car use hydrogen today.”
Yi Tao, the point here is that it is something which is happening now already and is blooming in the minds of those who are open to it and would like to have it. Your use of the word “pretend” implies denial, but denial is not what we are talking about. When a person wants to learn how to do something or wants to create something new they “act as if” in order that it be developed inside of them. Nothing gets created that isn’t first chosen, intended and then practiced as if real until it becomes so. For a fact, we are always living in the future because the thoughts we are thinking and energizing purposefully now are creating our future. The present offers us the possibility to chose differently from what has been. So unless you LIKE the way people have behaved for the last several thousand years….
Best, AA
“Anyone who say that Sun Tzu believed war was the last resort doesn’t understand Sun Tzu. He believed armed forces were the last resort because there are easier ways to defeat the enemy.”
You have just contradicted yourself.
My post was about unnecessary warfare which applies to Iraq and Afghanistan.Yes of course the powers that be also employ Sun Tzus subtle strategies too in order to sow discord (its a standard text taught at military academies), but they abuse it. It is clear the art of war was intended to be employed when diplomacy and negotiation had failed.
Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy’s resistance WITHOUT FIGHTING
Sun Tzu said: In the practical art of war, the best thing of all is to take the enemy’s country whole and intact; to shatter and destroy it is not so good. So, too, it is better to recapture an army entire than to destroy it, to capture a regimen t, a detachment or a company entire than to destroy them.
Therefore the skillful leader subdues the enemy’s troops without any fighting; he captures their cities without laying siege to them; he overthrows their kingdom without lengthy operations in the field
That was the point I was making which you agree with, – there are better ways to overcome your enemy than bombing the shit out of them. Open warfare is still the last resort in Sun Tzu’S philosophy.
Creating enemies where none existed before is not mentioned in the text.
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