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bagua replied to the topic Grounding and Tibetan Powa and Astral Travel in the forum Practice 18 years, 8 months ago
Hi Faj:
In general I will not give the specific technique a teacher presents, go buy their product. You say you learned Chia’s formulas, but your questions show its doubtful. You say your ordered Michael’s fusion, why not wait and find out yourself?
bagua
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bagua replied to the topic Grounding and Tibetan Powa and Astral Travel in the forum Practice 18 years, 8 months ago
Hi Singing Ocean:
Your writing style is very similar to another on this list.
Ocean:
I have to say that I find your use of language and position not very clear; one moment you are saying that Winn’s method is to draw the external (celestial) energies inside the body, and the next that the in the view of “Most masters of the past”, the Dan…[Read more] -
bagua replied to the topic Grounding and Tibetan Powa and Astral Travel in the forum Practice 18 years, 8 months ago
Faj:
You can ask Michael about it.
I dont give alot of value to shooting out, so no need to continue the dialogue on it. In my view Taoist cultivation is gentle, slow, and has many methods, look at what a formula or method does, look behind the words and metaphors, and above all, practice, practice, practice.
bagua
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bagua replied to the topic Grounding and Tibetan Powa and Astral Travel in the forum Practice 18 years, 8 months ago
HI faj:
I think its safe to assume most people learning this work are scattered and not grounded from an alchemical point of view, so they need to cultivate this. Most of our lives we are everywhere, except inside and in the NOW. Once this is develeped, one can go anywhere.
I dont think acsension is rising up literally, it occurs…[Read more]
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bagua replied to the topic For Fajin : Re: How deep can you go? in the forum Philosophy 18 years, 8 months ago
HI faj:
I think its safe to assume most people learning this work are scattered and not grounded from an alchemical point of view, so they need to cultivate this. Most of our lives we are everywhere, except inside and in the NOW. Once this is develeped, one can go anywhere.
bagua
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bagua replied to the topic Grounding and Tibetan Powa and Astral Travel in the forum Practice 18 years, 8 months ago
Hi faj:
let me clarify.
I am not saying to avoid forming the pearl, im suggesting the specefic method of “shooting it out very strongly”, like a whale shooting out water, I dont do this, even though i tried it for awhie. This is what Im saying one can leave out, ok?
As we cultivate this awareness of being one with all of life becomes more…[Read more]
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bagua replied to the topic Grounding and Tibetan Powa and Astral Travel in the forum Practice 18 years, 8 months ago
HI Fajin:
To be clear, we create an exact energy replica of our regular body above us, we are creating this form, it it just one aspect to the formula. I believe it is partly a method to allow us to direclty experience we are not just our body.
This method is found in many taoist texts and teachings, people like Huang Qi Ni have this method…[Read more]
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bagua replied to the topic Grounding and Tibetan Powa and Astral Travel in the forum Practice 18 years, 8 months ago
hi singing ocean:
If my memory serves me, doesn’t michael draw earth, sun, moon and planetary energies from the outside to the inside of the body, if they are already in the body why the need to draw from outside in.
SO
“There is no heaven out there”
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bagua replied to the topic Grounding and Tibetan Powa and Astral Travel in the forum Practice 18 years, 8 months ago
Hi Faj:
I have shot the pearl, dont do it any more.
Grounding to me is similar to what you have developed, if it relates to sitting meditation, then its being rooted in the lower or middle tan tien, that you are rooted and have good balance in the the center, in this case of tao alchemy, the five shen are unified and harmonized in the…[Read more]
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bagua replied to the topic Grounding and Tibetan Powa and Astral Travel in the forum Practice 18 years, 8 months ago
Hey Faj:
If you got the cash, buy both, each has their unique twist and its worh knowing the difference.
bagua
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bagua replied to the topic For Fajin : Re: How deep can you go? in the forum Philosophy 18 years, 8 months ago
HI Faj:
Fajin
Yes, but I prefer the method offered by the One Cloud school of inner alchemy, the inner smile over emptiness. You don’t need both for the same result, you pick one.
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I have a few questions.1. Did you ever meet White Cloud?
2. If there was a White Cloud, do you think he made up the…[Read more]
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bagua replied to the topic For Fajin : Re: How deep can you go? in the forum Philosophy 18 years, 8 months ago
Hi Harry:
Thats a very good questoin, I will offer my advice, I’m on overload but will get back to on this one.
bagua
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bagua replied to the topic quoting classics (all too infrequent) in the forum General 18 years, 8 months ago
I do quote the tao te ching quite often.
bagua
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bagua replied to the topic For Fajin : Re: How deep can you go? in the forum Philosophy 18 years, 8 months ago
Harry:
I learned M. Chia’s and M/ Winn’s versions of Tao Alchemy, beginning to end, as well as researching, meeting many teachers/practitioners and practicng for a few decades.
bagua
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bagua replied to the topic For Fajin : Re: How deep can you go? in the forum Philosophy 18 years, 8 months ago
Hi Fajin:
The Sun and Moon, in constant movement, can’t have one with out the other. Chan is within Tao Alchemy, like the seeds of Yang are within Yin and seeds of Yin are within Yang. For me the two are one.
For me, Wu Wei is like a portal, it opens one to many possibilites and its a way to experience them. I have faith in this portal and…[Read more]
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bagua replied to the topic For Fajin : Re: How deep can you go? in the forum Philosophy 18 years, 8 months ago
HI fajin:
Fajin
I personally don’t like the Chan methods of koans, emptiness meditations, or whatever they use, because I don’t think that they are very useful. If you like Chan experience, then go experience it, I’m not stopping you, the CHOICE is yours. I just share my knowledge and wisdom with you, and maybe you will learn something from…[Read more] -
bagua replied to the topic For Fajin : Re: How deep can you go? in the forum Philosophy 18 years, 8 months ago
Hi Fajin:
You obviously do not know much about martial arts, its not the art and not the training, its the individual that determines who wins in a contest. You can work the hardest, you can have great teachers, it all comes down to the individual skill.
You are a sharp person, too bad you take an extremist approach in dialogue, you goal is…[Read more]
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bagua replied to the topic For Fajin : Re: How deep can you go? in the forum Philosophy 18 years, 8 months ago
Hello fajin:
Practicing Chan takes work, to meditate, to read, for some chant, and apply it in daily life, this is work my friend.
Fajin
Chan has no strategy and through this “no” strategy, you will eventually reunite with Dao, but much longer because it doesn’t intensify the part that you want to work on.…[Read more] -
bagua replied to the topic For Fajin : Re: How deep can you go? in the forum Philosophy 18 years, 8 months ago
Hi Trunk:
I tried to use an example to express something, maybe it was not a good one, but it needs to be kept in context with the entire post.
The pearl will eventually become an exact replicare of ones body, in the form of an energy body, one can condense or expand it, one goal is that this pearl/energy takes the form of an energy body,…[Read more]
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bagua replied to the topic For Fajin : Re: How deep can you go? in the forum Philosophy 18 years, 8 months ago
Hi fajin:
I would only like to express that Taoist Alchemical formulas can only mimick and mirror process that exist in our bodies and our bigger body, the universe; creation of a pearl or not is just a method, we already have a pearl. As M. Chia use to say, we have the most powerful cyrstal inside us.
I think in a way we are like a diamond…[Read more]
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