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Chris, Wendy,
Indeed you have. Thank you so much. I am trying to clarify in my mind why your advice was more useful and different, alas, I am having trouble being specific.
I think it is because you related things to how YOU felt instead of comparing my question/quest with some pre-determined orthodoxy.
Regardless, your comments mattered.
Thanks.
David
Chris,
Perfectly stated. Thank you so much. Your words REALLY were the most useful.
While I think you added much to my original question: “would adding semen be a net benefit”, I think you hit the proverbial nail perfectly. Thank you thank you thank you.
Sure, there’d be something “added”, but what is actually being added? Perfect.
I can’t say how much I appreciate how well you put into perspective what I was asking. You truly changed my mind. No additional semen for us. Just me and my wife.
Your words made the difference.
David
Thanks Wendy for your thoughts. It’s always best to hear from both men and women on the topic.
I think what conclusions that may be drawn here, are that there are sooooo many considerations that it may not be worth the effort.
David
Thank you SD,
This is exactly the kind of information I need. We all have to start somewhere, and it is easier to have some idea of a “number” to start with.
Also, thank you Steven.
Both of you are terrific to take time to help me on the beginning of my journey.
David
Thank you Steven. It’s obvious that there are many factors and that the number will vary. I looked at the threads.
Nevertheless, I’d still like to hear from others as to how they have done, how it has effected them, their ideas, learnings, recommendations.
It might be helpful to state that I am 48 years old and exhibit the symptoms of depletion from decades of excessive masturbation.
Do any of you out there recommend what might be good for me? Where I should start, what goals I should strive for regarding retention?
David
Thank you Steven. I appreciate your grace and wisdom here.
I agree that I must seek greater understanding and rigor in my learnings. And you are helping me to do that. It’s apparent that there are no shortcuts in this regard. I must study and practice.
David
Steven,
I think you may be right, but also may be missing the point. Of course, I’d only do this if I liked it….and my wife liked it. I freely admit, I would like this.
The point is that WOULD this be an effective way to ADD energy to the equation? And you did answer that question. Thanks.
Is Taoism about circulating sexual energy while you do not like it?
Like you, I sense something here. Perhaps you are judging. I would prefer to know about HOW this may or may not help.
Thanks Steven.
David
Thank you ALL for such thoughtful and useful AND respectful help. My wife and I now have a much better perspective on the use of this “Green Dragon” to help.
To summarize, it appears that the great danger is for my wife to receive the semen from intercourse. The danger being that she may develop attraction to this man. Instead, it is best she only receive the semen on her face from the Green Dragon type AND that she does not receive the semen from the same man too often.
Chris said something interesting about the potential for there to be some other aspect related to this desire. I admit to what he and Steven suggest. There is SOMETHING that is appealing about this for me. I am neither jealous nor angry about wife receiving extra semen. I feel like the Jade Dragon who is to be the voyeur and benefactor. Is not a good husband for this purpose? I ask humbley for the opinion of others.
David
Thank you Steven. I appreciate that you answered the question directly rather than simply state that such an arrangement would be difficult. There is no question that introducing a third person’s energy into the equation can be problematic. So the question to be decided upon for my wife and me is: will the additional considerations (ethical and practical) be worth the additional energy added to us for circulation?
In this case, the third person involved is aware of the directional (vampiric?) aspect of the energy flow. He fully realizes he will be losing energy but he maintains that his young age and vitality (he’s about 27 years old) will allow for such depletions. The expectation would be that he’d perform intercourse with my wife.
As for motivation regarding the subconscious desires you mentioned in point 2 above, I don’t believe there is something missing. Rather, I emphasize my initial point–which may not have been well made: If my retention is good for me, AND my essence transferring to my wife is good for her….Therefore, adding energy to the “system” would be a net plus. (provided the challenges you mention)
Is this case analogous to the notion of Jade Dragon/White Tigress receiving from the Green Dragon(s)?
Again, thank you for answering my actual question. Other “experts” have avoided answering because they got too hung up with the challenges involved.
David
