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Hi Poo Head,
I’m glad to know that you are a woman.
“Wendy, you can’t teach them.”
People, not just men, learn as they can. One has to want to. Some can. I feel pain when I read your absolute statement.
“It only goes into their heads and circles there until they find something clever to come back with to prove they are not wrong. It never goes in the body. Mind, especially man mind, can do this for years.’
Yes, without question. But in my experience it happens with both sexes. You must understand that this is true because of pain one cannot tolerate and doesn’t know how to alleviate. It is also a question of the out-of-control ego mind, what Eckhart Tolle calls the “pain body,” having control. Please have some compassion.
“The only way you can make a clever man change is to withold yourself until he does. While they can get you to converse they will continue to think they are OK.”
I assume you mean more than just sexual withholding, right?
I understand that you have great frustration with what you are labeling the clever male mind. I have that too, with myself and others and the world, which is still run by it. To a certain extent, you are correct, you have to withhold, you cannot entertain it. But there is a line between that and angry reactivity and it is our responsibility as men and women both to hold the state of neutrality yet openness in which transformation can occur.“No-one is getting any closer to love.”
I don’t think this is true, PH.
Please make some space for the possibility. It sounds like you have been selectively reading things here, filtering, instead of taking in the whole of things. Love has been offered and received. Don’t give into your own pain or you will become one of the “Girls with fixed ideas.” OK?I have enjoyed many of your posts in the past and appreciated your thoughtfulness and clarity.
Blessings, Alexander
Instead of attacking her, why don’t you say how what she writes makes you feel, Plato? Why don’t you let yourself feel what she might be feeling to want to write what she wrote?
LOL!, LOL!
ph> you can’t teach them. >
You guys are reading too much into that, lol;
its Mr. Poo Head, not Ms. lol!lol, lol.
Well, thanks, Trunk. But even so, the comments still apply, don’t you think. By the way, thanks for your website. It’s been really helpful. -A
Max,
I usually try and make an effort to explain myself when asked. If you are waiting for me to pull out a quote you have made that says “I hate women” I don’t have one, but I think you catch my drift or you wouldn’t be avoiding my questions. I have read the other replies to your posts and the answer is still not clear to me. Would you care to elaborate?
“Just imagine I made the same post about women- Wendy would be leaving again and Singing Ocean would be telling me how much my heart is filled with hatred for the opposite sex.”
I don’t get it. Why would that happen?
Again, the underlying tone for both you and Plato sometimes shows, let’s say, an unresolved, inner discomfort that may or may not be seen in the words themselves. We may be mistaking this, may be not. Possibly only you can know for sure. -A
Your explanation makes sense to me. It still doesn’t make sense to me why you are defending the stuff those other guys are posting.
My view is that there is a constantly shifting give and take in any relationship. It is true that females appear more yin on the outside, but also seem to have more emotional fire inside (due to amplification of organ qualities by internal sexual organs), while men are yang on the outside and in their manner, but are more yin on the inside.
In reality though, people can manifest any combination of this, and to have a fixed view prevents the spontaneous unfolding of the process. I would avoid seeing women as only submissive and men as only dominant. I would also avoid expecting a woman to submit to the males practice regimen and/or lifestyle; to “change” themselves to adapt to how the man wants them to be. If a man or woman in a relationship wants to cultivate, fine; someone cannot be forced. Better to choose someone who embodies what you strive for.
and any person who names themselves PLato could be said to have an grandiose opinion of themselves…
or…
it could be just a name, right?
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