da mad cream II: undestanding karezza and ancestral possession

I can say that in my practice and as I progress its totally clear that materbation is not compatible for males on this path. You can loose a whole month of cultivation by masterbating. Sex, however…I can say that there seems to be a small step backward but I don’t think its in the same territory as masterbation is. The problem for me is that as my energy increases (I’m a guy)my vitality increases and I get horney to the point almost of going crazy. For the most part, I’ve been able to stop the masterbation and with it my energy cultivation and practices have skyrocketed… However, with the increase in horniness, I feel like an alcholic or person trying to quit smoking…its a day by day and hour by hour test to keep away from the sex. It plays with your mind too, wondering if the cultivation is worth it and etc.

I have not yet found a way to resolve this problem…but thought I would share… Its probably too much information…but I think people seriously going along this path must be encountering the same…. I don’t know…

The Lover Within, Opening to energy in sexual practice by Julie Henderson

She talks about holding a sexual charge in a contracted or a relaxed state. It’s the contraction which causes the insane horniness, if you relax into it the horiness it dissipates into an energized pleasurable feeling.

I practiced relaxing into my pelvis and sexual energy and letting it freely absorb into my whole body for 3 weeks and found that I felt great and my mental ability became more focused. As long as I didn’t focus on physical sex (which is what caused me start over again) it worked fine. I did notice that the more I charged up the greater the desire to share this great feeling with any woman who had a compatible vibe with me. So in a way my male energy ramped up to a powerful but gentle glow, but it was more of a whole person glow than just a hot sexual urge of horniness.

What I didn’t do is circulate the energy through the microcosmic orbit because I didn’t want to take the chance of getting too sexually excited by accident so I don’t know how that would affect the horniness problem.

Karezza looks like a good way to use sexual energy without draining either partner. Jack Johnston’s Male Multiple Orgasm is another way to redirect sexual energy to prevent ejaculation through the breath.

One thing is for sure that the greater the energetic charge becomes, the greater the desire to ejaculate in regular sex is, so there is less room for error when you are highly charged.

I’ve found this to be true: “It’s the contraction which causes the insane horniness, if you relax into it the horiness it dissipates into an energized pleasurable feeling.”

If I relax into what’s happening instead of tensing up to try to control it, I expand and the energy does with me. It becomes very blissful and a lot of energy can be recirculated with little effort on my part in a short space of time.

From what I can tell, we tend to try really hard to accomplish and to achieve (sound familiar?) when allowing what’s there to be there works so much better.

-Alexander

Very nice Griffin, I very much liked the content of this site…song for my ears.

It is very true that female orgasm is NOT something to aim for. It took a very long time before my partner understood this. I can have orgasms yet not being satisfied in the core. He was only focused on giving me that ‘pleasure’ while in fact I was almost ‘bored’. Read I never fake orgasm but I switch my ‘spiritual’ aim off and go into body/emotional mode and can have orgasms as wanted.

I am very much into energetical exchange, where a man ‘offers’ his energy which can be absorbed by woman, read carefully it is not a depleting exchange but an enhancing one, like explained on the karezza website. And is possible between any man and woman, not just solid partners, when the alchemy and frequence is right. I find this a very satisfying, ‘clean’ and honest way of exchange. It can result in a full ‘body’ orgasmic feeling even from the other side of the planet.
It is like an energy dance, where the man leads and the woman takes and follows.

“I’d like to hear your thoughts on this, and also a bit more about how you did this:

‘I practiced relaxing into my pelvis and sexual energy and letting it freely absorb into my whole body for 3 weeks and found that I felt great and my mental ability became more focused. As long as I didn’t focus on physical sex (which is what caused me start over again) it worked fine'”

First I focused on my breath (about 4 days of 3 hr practice per day) until I built a good charge in my body. Any practice that builds chi will work fine. I like the breath practice because it is calming where other methods tends to build hot chi.

I then became conscious of my pelvic area and any energy sensations.

Then I drew that energy into the rest of my upper body, saturating it like a sponge of energy.

After a while my legs became energized and I included them with the pelvis in drawing energy into the rest of my body. When I did this I could feel chi being drawn up threw the feet and into the rest of my body.

Although I was trying to energize the body without being drawn into orgasm. The practice I did above reminds me of the hollow body practice in “The Six Yogas of Naropa” and the practice in the book “The Five Tibetans” where the 6th practice is intended for celibates and moves energy into the rest of the body from the pelvic area. One of my concerns was if I built up a large enough charge, that despite my best efforts, I would lose it in a wet dream. So as I was lying in bed ready to go to sleep I did the practice until I fell asleep. Instead of focusing on the entire body as a sponge I directed the chi into the bones to store it better and then resumed the body as a sponge for the rest of the day.

I eventually dropped the bone storage because I forgot to do it and I was more interested in the good feelings I was having. So I don’t know what would happen if I continued bone storage. When I went to bed feeling good I slept more soundly and felt more rested in the morning.

One interesting side affect was that when I woke up in the morning instead of having a really hard erection, it was stiff but not super hard. Which I assume means that the rest of the chi was being circulated to other parts of the body. After a while my penis felt like it was broader in girth and it had a heavy hot and wet chi field, sometimes I felt this type of chi in the pelvic area too. It wasn’t painful or that distracting but the sense of a dense power charge was there. I’m assuming from the sensations that it was the water and fire element and maybe some earth element mixed in there. Also as the energy built, it flushed out emotional and event related wounds, either with the result of releasing it with a deep breath or reliving the emotion or event. I found how vivid or how well you release it on how much you want to release past experiences.

My thoughts became clearer and I generally felt great and I was in a good jovial mood almost constantly. Maybe in time they would become blissful. Then since I was feeling so good, I wanted to share it with any woman that vibed with me. It was a whole person buzz that activates all the chakras that makes you feel very good. Then instead of the horniness urge where you just want to release it … it was more like you felt so good you wanted to share it with someone else. So when a woman vibed with me basically saying energetically “I like you” then I felt energetically ” I like you too, here have some this great feeling.”

So the desire for unification basically became more whole person centered then just sexual or heart centered.

I think the Karezza method for not having orgasm as an outcome, but to build on expressing feelings of love and acceptance is a good model. The main point being to channel the energy into something other than orgasm.

If I missed something you wanted more clarification on let me know.

Thanks for that Griffin. It was very encouraging.

when you said:

“My thoughts became clearer and I generally felt great and I was in a good jovial mood almost constantly. Maybe in time they would become blissful. Then since I was feeling so good, I wanted to share it with any woman that vibed with me. It was a whole person buzz that activates all the chakras that makes you feel very good. Then instead of the horniness urge where you just want to release it … it was more like you felt so good you wanted to share it with someone else.”

That reminds me of what Osho used to say about being so full of blissfull energy that you want to share it. Not in an ejaculatory/dumping/release sense, but rather as an emanation of your energy. You are then grateful to the other for recieving and accepting your emanation in the same way a flower sends out it fragrance

your acount is inspiring. thanks again for sharing it

I’m really enjoying this beautiful exchange of info and good feelings.
Griffin, I really liked your words about your experiences to Mat.
I think many of us are finding new ways to experience ourSelves with all the new energies coming to the planet looking for people to ground themselves through. It seems that many of us are organically expanding beyond our learned techniques. I find that when I really trust that instinct and let go, something deeper and richer, more connected and surprisingly fulfilling happens.
Happy chi,
Alexander