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July 14, 2006 at 2:33 am #15516hugoParticipant
Thanks for the heads up on Zivorad Slavinski Freeform – this is my main interest in NLP and Kinesiology shuffling and reshuffling to create an easier way to reconnect with the one – I love it when someone up ahead shouts you out a “short cut.”
July 14, 2006 at 4:29 am #15518.freeform.ParticipantKinesiology is great stuff… I’ve got to spend some time and calibrate it in myself, so that I dont have to get friends to test me on things. It’s great to work out if the the change has really happened, and if there are any conflicting parts needing to be processed.
This process is less of a reshuffling… it’s more like taking each bit, giving it a hug and then absorbing it into yourself… so after a while there are no parts left – just you and your free will.
July 15, 2006 at 3:47 am #15520hugoParticipantI mentioned the PEAT work to a collegue and it ended up he had taken an 3 day seminar a few years back in the US. We’re going to make a day and get me up to speed on it next weekend. So far from what he has related to me it seems similar at least in principle to Shamanic Entity work where we communicate with the entity or aspect and find out it’s ultimate purpose – eventually integrating and communicating that the dualities have the same goal. I’m looking forward to getting more detail on the practice itself.
July 16, 2006 at 4:25 pm #15522JernejParticipantSlavinski is more great. It goes higher. The center of such work is above the head center. Such is the result of his sunyata seminar, and my aura was at time described as that of unicorn with horn at crown level.
Though when i did processing at its best i was shifting spaces of identity from dan tien level. Did not get to lower dan tien level.
Although i used his aspectics book as a bible for contemplating and were using his spirit for attunement and not so much the wording for actual processing. In practice Slavinski is sometimes practical as is satistified in working with clients with smaller kensho states.While he has strong hindu influence it is top notch influence.
In Slavinski system there is thought, emotion, sensation and picture. Since word is of property of intelect, in west such would go under air and thus mental plane. Hence thought. Thus word is a manifestation of thought. Note there are ‘root’ words that are unintelligible (or supraintelligible or both) and ‘superficial’ words that are defined by superficial languages like English, Italian (as opposed to holly languages of full correspondence definitions).
True that to include all planes would include consunsual wording level. But this is not the end.
Sure if one processes meaning of ‘fear’ fully for all its projections/strands in past and future and then deals with issue of fear at other moments as it comes.
Yet there may be very big beast that are being handled in such indirect way. Beasts that are so big that would demands full sentences or books, yes, there is core word(s), but the intelligence of underlying body may be so strong to define the very core of ones destiny. When tackling such beasts that have its gravity above ‘word’ mental level the identity comes again in focus.
My I uses such processing for my most deep issues. This is always heavily in causual plane. Thus it is important to include this plane from beginning.July 16, 2006 at 4:46 pm #15524JernejParticipantIf I understand you correctly you are saying that chi gung and the like is the means to communicate with the jing and if you apply a certian understanding of polarity interaction without a specific and limiting structure you can get to the core of a problem. Yes?
…very yes. though in such one is cultivating one’s essence and such is ching kung. and because it includes communication communication it is also shen kung. so it is alcemy. though it is a very unplastic word. so chi kung is fine start.Like holding one part against or with the opposite part in a neutral space to establish a creative tension and cause transformation to happen?
…ultimately yes.
though ‘holding one part’ is tricky. one already has one part dominant. so it is more like alligning with what one is at one moment, that fully. then look around and grasp for other what one fears/blocks.
when you connect polarities, establish neutral space and the cause a transformation, it is the connecting of polarities that is the transformingJuly 21, 2006 at 10:40 am #15526.freeform.ParticipantI almost missed this post of yours, Jernej
It’s very interesting that you say his work develops the centre above the head. How have you foud it to work on the lower middle and upper dan tien? Because this is one thing I’ve noticed – the work doesn’t seem to go that deep down to the lower DT.
any other experiences with this stuff?
thanks a lot.
July 21, 2006 at 2:05 pm #15528JernejParticipantthe sunyata is above head
yet processing does not aim up vertically
it aims up withini have developed way of shifting
recognizing a problemshifting into it working out its parameters
(inso working on chi level)but then i shift more and i still can report sensorials and thought
but the sensory impression is that of being in a fog, generaly centered in two inch ball centered at heart or head center
still checking for gross elements and reporting/recognizing
but the focus is on intent when sequencially moving to being achieving the goal
until there is no more to dothen there is just fog (no more wanting)
then go back (the way created coming there) knowing thisimage of fog is depicted quite by this cover though the center is smaller ball couple inches big
http://www.healingtaocenter.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HTC&Product_Code=V76-TP&Category_Code=AP
interpreting this as shen level inner spacein slavinski work you do not need all the sensories,emotional, mental parameters
the focus is on essence thus freestyle is ok
(example when working in pairs you still ask for body sensations, yet it is ok if there are none upon inquiry; however if working lacks wind then specifics are produced to build momentum)the work does not go to lower dan tien for it works from ideology of ‘removing the charge’ of being, and substance/essence is not something that is cultivated
the goal is not study of origin of life, it is discharging it
that is hindu, not essence
like throwing punches (expanding closed palm forward) when moving back can still reach front a lot, but it is still defensive
body/incarnated as small me of the bigger me of limitless nature
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