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Hello Plato-
“If it is so obvious, why should I add a disclaimer in CAPS?”
He wants you to see in another way.
“You say you are finding resolution and completion yet you’ve done nothing to bring this miraculous discovery of yours to the world to save others (and please don’t say you are a HT instructor).
You are still of the DELUSION that suffering is a choice that can so easily be controlled–just take a few courses at the HT!
Those people suffering in Afghanistan from depleted uranium no doubt chose that, right?
I suppose you are going over there to teach them Kan and Li?”
It dawns on me that your terrible cynicism is actually compassion and a sense of powerlessness. You love so much but don’t have the wearwithall to withstand the onslaught of your deep feelings for people and don’t know what to do to help. The anger hides the sensitivity.
No one is saying that suffering does not exist or that they have all the answers or they don’t feel pain about the world condition. But if you give up in the face of your own emotions you get buried by them. The dialogue that comes out of our pain body minds and mouths is very powerful and manipulative. It almost always sounds right because it will always appeal to your weakpoint – wherever your pain is. If you fall into believing it it will drag you under and there will be no light. Belive me, please. I KNOW this place.
Yet, this may be the process you need to get in there so deep with yourself until you consume the pain with your own Presence, which is the only way it can eventually happen.
All the people on this forum stand beside you as you do this.
Blessings,
AlexanderGreetings Plato,
You may be surprised to see how resilient people in third world countries are in spirit, despite genocide and suffering from disease, poverty etc. They make personal choices every moment how to deal with it. Obviously they also deal with a great amount of pain, probobly more than you have ever inflicted on yourself in all your methods of spiritual experimentation. PLease spare me the sarcasm.
Some people who do actually suffer have learned that the deeper the sorrow, the higher the joy, and also the more vast the neutral space in between. Each person makes a choice about how they deal with both the harshness and the great joy because they may not have a choice about what they are faced with, but they can change how they deal with it.
Take a trip to Chechnya and go find a woman who were gang-raped by Russian soldiers after watching their families murderedin front of them and tell her that the deeper the sorrow the higher the joy, or about the neutral space that was in between, or how resilient her spirit is.
Film her expression and post a link to it on this site.
Oh yeah, now that she is destroyed, I’m SURE she has a choice about how to deal with it. Wow! Personal choices! All those kids born deformed in Afghanistan, all those kids living like rats in Brazil, yeah–you’d be surprised at their resilience.
All those women in Thailand working as prostitutes due to economic oppression and overpopulation, they’ve made a a great choice too, so what is everyone complaining about anyway? Getting paid to fuck? Wonderful!
Hi Alexander, thanks for asking.
I feel my energy slowlly returning, and the chills have almost all gone.The qigong healer I saw a week ago helped a great deal. (I look forward to learning from him soon)
But it was your suggestions in the weeks prior that helped me lay the ground work for it to be so effective.I had been doing the inner smile for some time, but you opened other windows on it which brought in newer dimensions, so thanks.
The + – + – thing just happened as I was ending the post, I suppose it means balance, it just felt right.
BTW I thought you articulated well with fajian, maybe some day he will understand what you are saying (I mean that repectfully, faj)
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Plato, are you speaking from experience? Have you been to Chechnya? You can go ahead and ridicule anything I say at your own risk; it sure won’t hurt me. A great teacher once said that there is no punishment in life until one feels remorse of ones own actions, that is the worst and only judgement that exists, and may not even happen while one is alive. Who can make a damned soul feel remorse? It is not for us to control others actions as we are all a microcosm of free will with other similar aspects, but we can shape our own actions. Another great teacher said “if you want to change the world, start with yourself”, and yet another said “know thyself”. Who else can judge the depth of our knowledge except ourselves?
I think you forgot to mention the child soldiers in uganda, or the ones getting their hands chopped off in sierra leone for diamonds, or the kids raising their siblings at age 8 in refugee camps after their parents were murdered in front of their eyes with machetes. I know a few of those people, and they are wonderful people, they are happy to be alive now even though they still carry wounds; they could not choose their birthplace or their inheritance from heaven and earth, but they can shape their consequent actions in life now. They are not saints, and neither are any of us, we are all trying to find balance and completion. How can you take it away from them?
I recently attended a production of “playing for time” by arthur miller; it depicts a group of condemned people who stay alive by their various skills, yet are looked down upon and believed to be traitors by the other inmates. One of the characters was an electrician in auschwitz, the advice he gave to one witness of a group of people being trucked off to be gassed was “live, so you can tell their story to those who are still living”. Maybe humanity as a whole can learn from these atrocities to work together. It can swing either way depending on the will and intention of those still alive.
You seem to portray a jekyll and hyde personality that lacks consistency of direction. didn’t you post something on your “neo-taoist” blog recently about wanting to go to thailand to have sex with all the girls you could find in Phuket? Now you are crusading against it. It is hard for me to understand your point.
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