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May 1, 2005 at 6:41 pm #5001MoonglowParticipant
Sorry, this will be the last post for awhile … just doing some business on the computer and this one kind of gets me …
Why see the Tao as dark and sinister. You make it so.
Look up to the birds and watch as they fly against heaven’s palette,
Look to the earth to feel the beat and warmth of the mother’s heart,
Look inside you to see the Tao – beautiful and bright. Giving us every opportunity for every hope and abundance we could wish for … if we just let it.May 1, 2005 at 7:59 pm #5003spyrelxParticipantdrop your arrogance and maybe you will.
May 1, 2005 at 8:03 pm #5005spyrelxParticipantwell said
May 2, 2005 at 12:20 am #5007thelernerParticipantForget tao this or that. What you said is just common sense.
Peace
Michael
P.S. The healing tao stuff actually gets into some fairly sexual stuff, penis this, vagina that is actually somewhat par for the course. Our longest threads are often on sexual subjects. But like the first rule of learning a martial art, we need to begin and end w/ respect.
May 2, 2005 at 12:31 am #5009thelernerParticipantFor the truly enlightened, right now, I mean Right NOW is perfect. Perhaps for the suffering being in their mere presence can bring a sense of peace.
I think those of us somewhat under true enlightenment had better practice as much compassion as we can. Our thinking and actions create the mirror of our reality.
Peace
Michael
May 2, 2005 at 12:48 am #5011thelernerParticipantWendy, this isn’t about the word vagina. Nothingness, Danny, does indeed post some good things here. But sooner or later he seems to falls into a pit of negativity where he personally attacks people and writes dozens of nonsense posts a day, which totally disrupt the flow of conversation on the board.
In each cycle he has people like you and I(in the past), who him. People will ask him nicely to slow down, not curse at others or grapphiti post. He responds to this w/ pure spam of swearing, and threats.
I hope this time is different. Its not about respecting any individual its about respecting the communal aspects of this board.
Peace
Michael
May 2, 2005 at 6:34 am #5013wendyParticipantMichael W.asked me to join this board to comment some of these erruptions, which at start I refused because I indeed dislike this kind of childess conversations and I didn’t wanted to become involved in a battle which isn’t mine at all.
I emailed him this about another poster:
“again and again you offer him a change to speak up, you
yourself
keep this going on, as you use his name and speak to him
directly.”But is pretty easy to stand along the side and have comment on things. So I decided to join this board and find out myself.
I never said in my postings that it is all fine and nice. I just told what my strategy is in my personal life and if it is appliable fine, if not then change of strategy. Thanks to our flexibility we are still surviving on this planet. Having compassion doesn’t mean you have this flower power smile on your face.
If people cross my border deliberate trying to hurt they meet my silence.
Anyway
At least I have a better understanding why Michael W.is doing these things.Another quote from my email to Michael W.:
“I think it is just a female thing to strive for peace and harmony. That is why probably there are only men at boards, women don’t like this kind of communication, which is very much like the old battle fields. Except that swords are changed into words.”Thank you for your kind and personal reply Michael.
WendyMay 2, 2005 at 8:30 am #5015Simon V.ParticipantI think compassion is like the sun. Saying we don’t have it or don’t need it is like denying the reality of the sun or pretending we don’t need its light.
In my life compassion equates to personal sanity. I feel that I would truly go insane without the feeling of interconnected warmth to others. I have found that affirming compassionate intent toward others is a very powerful thing–potent magic!
Also, I feel that compassion is intrinsically related to the intimate sense of presence, which presence is the same as basic happiness–I feel intimate presence, as disentangled from personal-cultural history, IS happiness, the interrelating energy of which is compassion.
For me compassion-happiness has a lot to do with acknowledging and allowing my and others’ weaknesses, at the same time as being firm about following my conscience and pursuing goals that feel genuine, not giving in to degrading trends, whether they manifest internally or externally. Along those lines I feel I can identify with what Wendy has said above on her personal rules.
Simon
May 2, 2005 at 7:33 pm #5017Soaring Spirit FeatherParticipantThis guy Danny, the first post i read, i asked michael “hey is this guy a teenager?” He said no. No insults to teenagers but some guys get over using the trash talk publicly…. eventually. It’s doing him a favor (being compassionate) by let him know it’s not ok anymore. If you think this is fun you are mistaken….
Yea, there is a differernce between using sexual words in a discussion and using them just spouting or showing off or just in plain bad taste. It does seem that the open sex discussions as well as the open sexual teachings attract many people that are sexually unbalanced. Maybe they need this stuff the worst.
peace
mike 🙂May 2, 2005 at 7:55 pm #5019spyrelxParticipant“I never said in my postings that it is all fine and nice. I just told what my strategy is in my personal life and if it is appliable fine, if not then change of strategy.”
No, actually you said that if I criticized someone who was trying to disrupt the board it was I who was somehow not “centered”.
“If people cross my border deliberate trying to hurt they meet my silence.”
Which, in the case of people who are making incessant and annoying posts, means that your voice is no longer heard and they have free run of the board.
Compassion isn’t about being nice to people and it’s not about being smugly silent when someone is abusing a community. Indeed, it’s not about being smug at all, which appears to be a theme of yours.
Rather, it’s about right action, which can range from kind words to a fist in the face, depending on what is called for.
A virtual community is like a garden. You have to tend it, nurture it, pull up weeds and get your hands dirty. This of course presupposes you care about the community and about making it grow.
spyrelx
May 3, 2005 at 11:58 am #5021WilberKEMAIMemberTalking about “sexually unbalanced”, when I watch porn, I’m looking at the guy, not a girl. What does this mean? I’m not gay or anything.
May 3, 2005 at 1:02 pm #5023spyrelxParticipantSomebody must really have a thing for me.
May 3, 2005 at 1:11 pm #5025WilberKEMAIMemberYou must find yourself very clever. Must be the little people over at taobum.
May 3, 2005 at 1:27 pm #5027spyrelxParticipantMust be. Confirming once again my view of you guys: a bunch of adolecents of very limited skills who have become bored playing with themselves.
I mean, it is kind of like something 10 year old boys would do. “We don’t want to play with them, so we’re going to set up our fort over here”. So you do, but of course you get bored with yourselves pretty quickly. So you come back. But you don’t have the honest introspection or social skills to get over your own ego and just join in with the rest of us. So you’ve got to do inane stuff like this.
And the kicker is most of you guys are over 30.
Over 30.
Over 30 and you’re compelled to act out a childish obsession with this board, michael winn, and now me. Pretty weird, don’t you think?
May 3, 2005 at 7:44 pm #5029Soaring Spirit FeatherParticipantI’ll delete the posts it if you want.
Adolecents in the early 80’s yea, 300 baud modems, faster connections now… the same games…. this is stuff is old news guys.
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