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May 30, 2010 at 3:56 pm #34301wendyParticipant
‘I am glad that your overall experience turned out to be positive’
yes it just took me about 10 years of integration 🙂
As for the Kunlun and other related threads, I get lost in those things.
I only can say that there is a lot of fear around the dragon/reptile energies.
I lost ‘friends’ because of it, as they were believing I became a shape shifting reptile taking over the planet. Probably my energy back then was pretty uncontrolled and unfiltered, dragon energy was pooring out of me and was freaking them out. I can’t blame them at all.Their fears became my fears, feeling what the hell I had been allowing and took on me. Overcoming those fears was tough, that is why it took so long. I had chew it by myself, there was no lineage of sorts to guide me.
But I found peace and resolution with it.
No doubts there are ‘bad’ and ‘good’ dragons/reptiles. I happened to have stumbled into the good guys. They are wonderful creatures, amazingly strong, wise and gentle, VERY loving. I feel very nurtured and very honored that they offered me a dragon heart.May 30, 2010 at 8:50 pm #34303voiceParticipant(the title being a play on Hunter S. Thompson’s book “fear and loathing: on the campaign trail ’72”)
I want to relate my experience with dragons, as it does relate to the issues of fear and love.
Let me give some context. I was in love with Wendy, but we did not have a relationship. We were both in dying marriages; I had fallen for her, but I was still too closed energetically for her to “see” me. We were going to meet in a couple of weeks at one of Michael’s retreats in England. I was a bit desperate. I was sitting outside, musing about Wendy, when I realized that while I was open to allowing my energy body to resonate with her, I was not allowing my energy out in a way that would allow her energy body to resonate with mine. When I felt that, there was a shift in me. A couple of hours later, the following happened, and I sent her the following email (that I have edited a bit for this posting). Lower down I will comment on this experience.
________________________________________________I was all of a sudden in a dusky space. I was disoriented, seeing nothing, but sensing something there. I then opened my heart to you, and it was wonderful to feel a golden field of love from you enter my heart. And then, in the dusky space, a dragon was suddenly eye to eye with me. I was a bit afraid, but then asked it what it wanted, and it got closer, and then it was you grinding your pelvis on me. The inner me in the dusky space didn’t know how to move, and then it did. And, since then I feel spacy, and feel like I am seeing through two eyes – my own, and a dragon covering me.
I was feeling a bit overwhelmed with all this and so lay down. I was opening my heart to you when the dragon feast began! It began with one and then it seemed like many feasting away on my heart. They didn’t seem emotional or evil or anything, they were just ripping away at it like a hawk does with a rabbit. This was extremely frightening, have my flesh being ripped away again and again, leaving me as a skeleton with only vapors for a body. There was no way to avoid this, once it had started, I knew there was no running from this. I could sense that if I tried to hide from this, they would attack me in other ways. If I didn’t have your heart to connect to, I really might have gone crazy. Eventually they grew tired of their sport and left.
Later in the evening, I went for a walk. Every so often a dragon would be there, for a heart snack. At one point it was like there were three of them and I thought something like…what do I get? And suddenly one dragon left a golden egg in my heart. When I felt the golden egg, I saw you move langorously in the golden jing and briefly felt I was golden too and in your arms.
____________________________________________________For the next couple of weeks, I had the difficult time of integrating this dragon energy. Initially I was fierce with people, as I now had this feeling of power and apartness from all of these little weak people. But, with Wendy there was the powerful, loving energetic exchange at a distance. Sometimes I would feel individual dragons and noticed that there were many of them: mean, vicious, wise, loving, caring etc. The issue became, which energy fit best with me and my life. Being with Wendy, it was the gentle and loving energy that fit best with me for the long term.
The dragons feasting one me seemed like a sort of test, a running of the gauntlet, a determination of my commitment and my readiness. I can easily understand how people who did not have the motivation of love (like I had for Wendy) would have a very difficult time going through that initiation, or even the preliminary checking out that went on before that.
Now, almost three years after that initiation, I have learned to be careful and respectful of the dragons. If they are connecting with me, or displeased with what I do, if I try and hide from their energetic nudging, then I will have a horrible headache, get spacey etc. They are not nudging me to do anything as such, but nudging me towards virtue, self respect, and the love of Wendy! Other than my loving with Wendy, I do not have much place for their energy in my life. Their energy for me is powerful in the heart and sexual in the loins. The big issue is how to give them a place in this world. Their mid-astral vibration is more embodied than the high-astral vibration, and more pure than many low-astral vibrations.
Based on my experiences with the dragons, I think that the reptilian experiences that some people have comes from lower astral entities that are frustrated with their inability to have bodies and thus try to manipulate people. The dragons are in the mid- to high-astral and seem to be more wanting to help us, but wary because of what has happened to them in the past.
Their immortality, though, does not help me with the issue of mortality of my human body, as they do not understand the limitations of the human body. There is too much of a gap between the density of us and them.
May 30, 2010 at 9:56 pm #34305singing oceanParticipantThank you both for posting your experiences. I am just making quick comments here because of time, but find the discussion very interesting.
Having read a number of posts on the other site, many people seem to say that the dragon energy was also sometimes sexual, but mostly just powerful and not necessarily evil, something that they were not sure how to deal with as they had no previous experience. It freaked them out because of their unfamiliarity with it, and also because of the insistence of the entities with contacting them. Could also be just working through issues.
I have noticed after having done many core channel focused meditations, and also the Nu Xian Pai full moon meditations that I am much more open to dreaming and astral connections. that may also be a combination of things.
May 31, 2010 at 5:34 am #34307c_howdyParticipantSorry for my broken English.
Maybe I still look after or maybe I don’t, but in all this there are some problems.
This just about that what Michael Winn has called pseudo-esoteric.
Another is to ask oneself when and why one still needs a human teacher, I mean in spiritual sense.
Thirdly I’m very happy to notice as an European that there is also purely Western (practical) tradition of Alchemy.
HOWLER HOWDY DIDOODOO
K L I N G S O R
Arise! Arise! To me!
Your Master calls you, nameless one,
She-devil of old! Rose of Hell!
Herodias you were – and what besides?
Gundryggia there, Kundry here!
Come here! Here, I say! Kundry!
Your master calls arise!
-RICHARD WAGNER, ParcifalJuly 8, 2010 at 11:04 pm #34309baguaParticipant“Within the Western Daoist community we find strong individuals with strong ego’s. Alchemy is about ‘making it’ so it takes strong willed people to be able to ‘make it’ otherwise you are not attracted to this path, you will chose other spiritual paths that are less will oriented.
That is why we keep seeing these strong partially unbalanced reactions in teachers. The balance between the strong will/ego and the acceptance of what IS, is a difficult excersise. But that is another story… ”
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Wendy, this is a very profound insight.bagua
July 24, 2010 at 7:15 am #34311wendyParticipantBagua, very glad you can find truth in it
It is very profound and worth to reflect about it because it is about how much we breath in and how much we breath out, and how much we stay present and aware in the still points….
Chris and I are home for one day between have been walking the Labyrinth in Chartres (France) yesterday ~ reflecting and exploring into the hidden shadows and opening new windows ~
Only the second time walking it I could do it with full awareness and depth ~ the first walk I was too excited and full with impressions of the surrounding, other people, the thrill of walking the Labyrinth finally after years of wanting to do it.This ‘walking’ brought deep insights of how we operate as humans, how I operate in my own life.
Tomorrow we leave for Scotland to explore more ancient sites, being open for new impressions and old wisdom….
Breathing in and out the Cosmic Breath,
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