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Will every home in the future have a hydrogen generator?

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Home › Forum Online Discussion › General › Will every home in the future have a hydrogen generator?

  • This topic has 23 replies, 5 voices, and was last updated 15 years, 2 months ago by Steven.
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  • February 12, 2010 at 1:20 pm #33252
    Steven
    Moderator

    Being a perfectionist and not wanting something because it
    is not a perfect complete entity means you get nothing
    in the meantime–except a lot of waiting around for
    drastic overhauls, which don’t come that often.

    I still say something is better than nothing.

    And if it causes more problems later, then we’ll deal
    with that later. We have to live in the present, not
    worry so much about the future that it paralyzes us
    to inactivity in the present. Make doable changes in
    the present now, and let the future take care of itself;
    it always does.

    S

    February 12, 2010 at 3:12 pm #33254
    Dog
    Participant

    Figure out a way to make the USA conscious of the fact that they are responsible (have the power) for the actions of our corporations (sound familiar to the alchemical process). If I was a smart Lawyer, I might try and sue not the corporations but the states or Fed that hold the corporate charters for these Corporations that violate our agreed upon fairness or human rights. But people will just start to get more and more frustrated till it just shifts, we repeat a pattern till we get it. If you are going to be responsible get the power to.

    February 12, 2010 at 3:14 pm #33256
    Nnonnth
    Participant

    Good to see you too!

    I recommend looking into Transition Towns (link below) if you are interested in being prepared. Taoists of course have been through much of this kind of thing in their history and are used to seeing the world as cyclical.

    ‘Cataclysm’ may be a bit overstated though. Being a third world country simply means living roughly like most people do the world over. Some of the descent is obviously going to be bumpy in places, I don’t deny…

    Transition Towns

    February 12, 2010 at 10:40 pm #33258
    Steven
    Moderator

    I don’t know that the “USA” has much power.
    Too much bureacracy and red tape in government
    has crippled any possible oversight.

    February 12, 2010 at 11:14 pm #33260
    Steven
    Moderator

    Lucky for me that I spend almost one month a year in
    a hermit retreat, so I’ve gotten used to the idea of
    living a day-to-day life not continuously supplemented
    by outside excesses.

    Cataclysm will come as people who are used to living
    with entitlements refuse to give them up. Then
    those people will create huge elaborate dog-and-pony shows
    to get people riled up, as well as acting in irrational ways
    –akin to the toddler screaming and bawling as a toy is
    ripped from its hands and the toddler holding on for dear
    life screaming “mine”. Too many old people/retired people
    sucking off the government tits expecting to live a cushy
    life just because they exist. Too many spoiled young people
    bleeding off of their folks to maintain their hedonistic
    lifestyle. Don’t underestimate the American sense of
    entitlement burned into the genetic code. It is entrenched.

    S

    February 12, 2010 at 11:39 pm #33262
    singing ocean
    Participant

    A more efficient electric motor might solve the problem of long distance driving, i.e., it would require smaller batteries, and you could carry extra ones.

    The only problem with hydrogen is that it could still be regulated by companies if sold in gas stations.

    Getting off the grid seems the best option. It is interesting that the electric car motor concept is modeled after an electricity amplifier…the same thing that this Australian guy claims to have developed:

    http://www.lutec.com.au/index.htm

    Interesting that theya re only available in Australia and NZ, but I wonder why they haven’t updated the website for 2 years. I would like to see the amplifier concept applied to the neutral-magnetic core electric motor!!! I think the more independent developers create their concepts, the more people will benefit, eventually something will catch on, hopefully in time for people to benefit.

    February 13, 2010 at 12:41 am #33264
    Steven
    Moderator

    >>>A more efficient electric motor might solve
    >>>the problem of long distance driving, i.e.,
    >>>it would require smaller batteries, and you
    >>>could carry extra ones. The only problem with
    >>>hydrogen is that it could still be regulated
    >>>by companies if sold in gas stations.

    Yeah, that was what I was thinking with that
    personal hydrogen generator that that
    engineer/entrepreneur was promoting in that video.
    You charge up several hydrogen “batteries” at home,
    and bring them with you. Then you don’t need
    service stations, i.e. buying hydrogen. The hydrogen
    you got from simple water at home.

    >>>Interesting that theya re only available in
    >>>Australia and NZ, but I wonder why they haven’t
    >>>updated the website for 2 years.

    Yeah, not updated since 2007, and an open letter dated
    from 2006. That makes it sound like a dead end.

    >>>I would like to see the amplifier concept
    >>>applied to the neutral-magnetic core electric motor!!!

    Get in touch with Michael.
    Between efficient motors and efficient power sources,
    there could be real progress . . .

    S

    February 13, 2010 at 9:11 am #33266
    Nnonnth
    Participant

    Well, I’ll give you ‘cataclysm’ if you mean long Great Depressions (with all the undoubted) misery they entail, and ultimately the breakup of the Union, decline of industrial civilization over a century or two, etc. etc. Sure, it will involve some thinning of the human population.

    But some are talking about ‘cataclysm’ as in pure permanent Mad Max or the End of Days… important to keep perspective. There’s a difference between a perfectly natural end to the civilizational lifecycle and Ragnarok.

    February 13, 2010 at 10:12 am #33268
    Steven
    Moderator

    Yes, by cataclysm, I don’t mean apocalypse. 🙂
    My meaning was the former you mentioned . . .

    The realignment will probably end up being a good thing.
    I’ve never believed that “buying crap” makes you a good citizen.
    To me, the dependency on “buying” to keep the country going,
    both on the country-level and on the individual level all
    remind me of the qualities of a drug addiction. Buying creates
    an artificial, empty high. Continuous buying must be maintained
    to avoid “withdrawal”. Ever higher amounts of uncontrolled
    spending are needed as “tolerance” develops. It’s junkie mentality.

    S

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