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Hi Michael:

Very well said.

I would only add that buddhists teachers and their community, both when in group meditation and as a social group do provide the guidance and support to move through blockages and stagnations too.

Maybe you can present a clear explanation of what you mean by immortality and how it is different than what the…[Read more]

Hello Fajin:

Many taoists converted to buddhism, many use both.

“Powers” have nothing to do with spiritual enlightment, many have qi powers but are so unbalanced, special powers do not guarantee spiritual development or achievement. Long life due to qi gong, nei gong, etc. does not guarantee spiritual enlightment.

Chan allows Dao to shape…[Read more]

Hi Fajin:

Oh you do make me smile.

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Are you separate from your mother, or are you inseparable from your mother? What about when your mother dies, do you die as well? Wu Ji is the mother of 10,000 things, and you are now separate of it, not Dao. We must abide to Dao, because everything else leads to suffering. You have free will…[Read more]

These formulas are just guides, the experiences ar not limited to the linear progression, anybody can realize them at any stage if they are ripe. What about the Taoists who lived before these specific 7 formulas were created/refined, did they acheive the same immortal body as White Cloud, if he did?

What about Huang Di, did he become an…[Read more]

Hello fajin:

Faj

“The Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao.
The name that can be named is not the eternal name.
The nameless is the beginning of heaven and earth.
The named is the mother of ten thousand things.”
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I think this confirms what I have been saying, Wu Ji and the reason for Tao is beyond our…[Read more]

Hi Fajin:

I dont know why Wu Ji expresses itself and I dont think anybody knows.

Consciousness does not create the universe and its functioning, it is a way to realize what is going on. It seems to me taoists and alchemists are about looking at what is going on and attuining to its patterns. We do not create the patterns or energetics. Life…[Read more]

Oh my Faj:

If the big bang was the initial process, did it happen step by step or simultaneously?

Chong in my presentation represents wu ji, it polarized itself, by polarizing itself, whatever the polarization creates is the expression of Wu Ji. Your alchemy attempts to trace back from all to eight, to four, to two to one/wu ji; then you…[Read more]

hi faj:

Chong Mai/center channel is the one.
Out of the one comes Yin-Yang, Chong creates Du and Ren.
Two created four: Chong, Du, Ren, Dai
Four create eight: ching, du, ren, dai, yin qian, yang qiao, yin wei, yang wei
eight produces all things.

Alchemy follows this process…………………

bagua

Hi Fajin:

I do think your participation is very valuable and hope you continue participation, I’m sure many value your feedback, I do too.

My focus is on the beginning, because this is where most spiritual traditions require some blind faith, which may be because we are incapable of understanding it. For me, you and Michael’s understanding…[Read more]

Hi Michael:

My breif comments.

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Its why I translate wuji as Supreme Mystery – we cannot categorize as any form of consciousness that we are aware of, it is certainly not original jing, chi, or shen, which emerge from it.
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Jing,qi,shen are the offspring of wu ji. Know the offspring but stay with the…[Read more]

hi fajin:

the only bell it rings is how you and michael, in your desire to explain all of existence, talk about things beyond human undestanding. Do you think you or Michael has higher achievement than Lao Zi or Zhaung Zi, your explanations imply you do.

bagua

Hi faj and michael:

Boy you guys can talk and the both of you too often summarize other people’s views incorrectly.

Why bother to discuss these things when we cannot agree on the begin of it all.

Faj
But it just simply is not like that. Wu Ji just created all the possibilities, ie. the possible outcomes. It is as if it wanted to see how…[Read more]

Hi Faj:

We cannot not agree on your presentation, so I will let you play with others.

Enjoy the play.

bagua

Hi Fajin:

Faj
Bagua, can you tell me why heaven is termed early and later.
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First, taoist terminology is not meant to be taking literally all the time, they are talking in metaphor.

Early and Later are explaining energetics, the two exist simultaneous. Are you familar with the terms Ti and Yong, body and…[Read more]

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Hi Fajin:

Before I comment on your questions, i have one for you.

Do you think entire creation from Wu Ji was done for the Shen or soul completion, the polarization of wu ji, yin-yang, tai ji to all things?

thanks,

bagua

ello Bagua,

I will continue from your replies but first some questions of my own. You asked me,…[Read more]

Hi faj:

I will get back on that, may not be until tommorrow.

bagua

Hi fajin:

Faj
In the beginning, the very beginning, there was Wu Ji and only Wu Ji, right?
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Yes, in a way that is all there still is, depends how you want to view existence.

Faj
If this is correct than that means that no other factors lead to the Wu Ji beginning the process of creating, meaning that Wu Ji DOES have…[Read more]

Hi Fajin:

The reason Im asking these questions is to isolate the beginning, the creation of polarization. Because some posts seem to cover lots of ground, i prefer to stay focused on this one issue.

Fajin:
Wuji carries infinte potential and is brought about through desire or intent, whichever. I like to refer to it as desire, but may be…[Read more]

Hi Fajin:

fajin:
*If that was a possible choice, but it is not because wuji is not concsious. Only conciousness made that choice, and so it is spirit that chose to polarize out of desire. Desire is not really a choice, but a direction. We see stepping down again.
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Please clarify.

In the order of evolution, when is…[Read more]

H Fajin:

Couple more questions.

If negative ego is a by product of living in an unspiritual way, than is the negative ego some mechanism or a signal to a person to make a change?

If yes, when we look at the history of humanity, is this mechanism or process effective?

If Wu Ji willed itself to polarize, can it will itself to not…[Read more]