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February 15, 2007 at 8:16 pm #21148EmelgeeParticipant
Hi Wendy 🙂
I appreciate your comments. 🙂
To be honest, there isn’t much that people say that bothers me personally. I speak when I want to, about what I want to and I don’t have too much concern if that bothers other people. Having said that, if a person attempts to emotionally/intellectually manipulate me into certain responses or behaviours, I will very quickly call them up on it. I will not accept disrespect; nor will I dish it out.
If I go silent for a while it is simply because I see that the alignment between myself and what is occuring within the group is not in line – so, I do other things for a while and wait for inspiration to strike again.
I have no issue with intellectual conversation as such (other than it seems the true point of everything is missed once it is resident purely in the brain!) and am happy to let these conversations occur around me even if, personally, they hold little emotional/spiritual value to me.
Also, I am a Gemini – so, to a certain extent, intellectual conversations hold some interest to me but conversely I have little patience when it comes to beating around the point 😛
Blessings
EFebruary 13, 2007 at 7:48 pm #20984EmelgeeParticipantAA – you conveniently forget in most of your posts that your truth is simply that, “yours”. You are entitled to your opinion, as is everyone else on this board. Further, in my view, it is arrogance of the highest level to believe your view represents some level of consciousness that other people have yet to achieve (I am referring to your discourse with Chris re science as well as an aspect of your posting in general).
E
February 13, 2007 at 12:11 am #20976EmelgeeParticipantFor my part, nothing I said in my “piffle post” was intended to be taken too very seriously or too very personally. As I recall I even said that AA had many words of wisdom in his post – other than my taking issue with the concept of a character flaw.
But, I cannot control another person’s emotional/intellectual reaction nor will I take responsibility for their reaction or allow another person to attempt to psycho-analyse my whole personality on the basis of a few words and one whole pile of complete misunderstanding.
And that is all I have to say about that 🙂
Peace out
EFebruary 12, 2007 at 7:53 pm #20972EmelgeeParticipantI think that whilst personal cultivation is very helpful in allowing one to work with their own “issues”, it is foolhardy to presume to know the inner workings of anyone else.
Peace
EFebruary 12, 2007 at 1:10 am #20956EmelgeeParticipantCharacter flaw, schmaracter flaw. Sorry, AA 🙂 Otherwise – AA has many words of wisdom.
Steve – it is a stage you are experiencing; no more no less. Many people have experienced exactly what you are so eloquently describing. If you continue along the path, things will align…Friends will go and new friends will join you. The feeling of separateness will dissipate once you realise it doesn’t truly exist.
Chin up, smile down, get your groove on 🙂
Blessings.
Peace out.
EJanuary 15, 2007 at 3:07 am #20357EmelgeeParticipantTruly beautiful dynamic…
These are the relationships I want to cultivate in my life. I know I am not yet at a point of being clear enough within myself to achieve this but when the time is right, then it will be.
Thank you for putting something I have been pondering for quite a while into words, Wendy.
E.
January 12, 2007 at 3:03 am #20323EmelgeeParticipantHello 🙂
Wendy and Pietro – what you say strikes a chord in me. Good encapsulation of the dynamics of relationships!
Personally, I find it uninspiring to only be ever involved with one person. I have no desire to be married or live with anyone (although I live happily with my flatmate!) – but I still very much enjoy the company of men. I suspect that my evolution will involve trying different types of relationship scenarios until I find the one that suits me. At this stage, I am sufficiently unclear on how all of this will pan out for me and so I am taking a time of rest away from relationships/associations until I am clearer within myself and then, by extension, with my partner(s).
I feel that the biggest issue that people confront is the idea of having multiple partners is this idea of not being able to love more than one person at a time or that, “if you love me and her then I am only getting 50% of your love” etc etc and that, probably more than the physical, is confronting to many people (male or female).
E.
November 8, 2006 at 5:15 am #19127EmelgeeParticipantthe letter to the smiling hearts came at a really good time for me
cheers 🙂
October 18, 2006 at 10:52 am #18668EmelgeeParticipanti do not believe it is possible (or healthy) to experience neutrality or happiness 100% of the time and consequently i have no fear of my anger or of expressing it 🙂 i don’t often get angry but in this instance having watched months of disrespect and other people within the forum attempting to “absorb” and “work with” the disrespect, my patience wore thin and so I show that i am human…why does that worry some ppl so? why should we avoid the “messy” human emotions for some preconceived (and yet never achieved) view point of “enlightenment” or “neutrality”…
i find the view point that to acknowledge emotions indicates a lack of centredness (and I wonder if to acknowledge love would be so quickly met with the view of a lack of centredness? and so, does that mean that some emotions are “good” and some are “bad” but then, don’t we go to such lengths to avoid such terms? – i thought you couldn’t have light without the dark – no yin without yang…and around and around like a dog chasing its tail we go again) to be a not so subtle judgment of emotion…
and so, it was there and now it isn’t.
bed calls
October 18, 2006 at 10:44 am #18677EmelgeeParticipantgo where you feel the need to be but proceed gently…if it starts to overwhelm or feel “unwell” in any way then go back to your teacher/friend and ask for their advice
sometimes i have gone places and felt not good or sick and so i pull back from it…then try again a little later (as in days or weeks later) and other places have opened up and all is fine
alternatively, your teacher/friend may have had a specific reason for telling you to avoid those areas – so perhaps ask them for insight
of course if your reference to teacher is more abstract, maintain a journal of your experiences for later reference – down the track you may find surprising connections that you didn’t immediately logically connect with
October 16, 2006 at 12:23 am #18648EmelgeeParticipantThe thing is – by acknowledging that their immaturity annoys me – it doesn’t mean I am off centre. It means I recognise the annoyance and acknowledge it and I can do both of these things without losing my smile!
Anyway – I move back to silence now.
E.
October 15, 2006 at 9:31 am #18644EmelgeeParticipantbut in this particular instance I just do not believe that coddling or letting the poor behaviour continue without respite is going to help anyone.
E.
October 15, 2006 at 3:32 am #18640EmelgeeParticipantHi Dog
I have no problem with different views but did you miss the not so subtle reference to walking into someone’s church and screaming there is no God? That isn’t offering a differing opinion in any kind of constructive manner.
It is funny that when someone else is being a jerk – the response is often to look within yourself at your reaction and that definitely has merit (it is something I do often in daily life) – but sometimes a person is just being a jerk and after you have looked into yourself enough times you realise that you can’t go any further with that because the external cause isn’t changing (i.e. the jerk). So you (or I or anyone else) grow a little and move on from that.
I am not going to *ask* to be treated with respect – I demand it. There is no resistance on my part. It simply boils down to basic courtesy.
If they can’t give it, they won’t receive it.
To moving on.
Emelgee.September 14, 2006 at 9:39 pm #17970EmelgeeParticipantMorning, A
Where do you go from here? Probably nowhere in the immediate future 🙂 (At least not in any kind of obvious way). I kept it short yesterday as I was ill.
But you have reminded me of something I had heard somewhere re quantum physics etc so I will re-investigate and probably be back with more thoughts at some point in the future.
Unfortunately, my every day life is throwing up a few things I have to deal with right now – so my attention is diverted to that 🙁
Got some crazy making friend who I am on the verge of walking away from…for 10 long years I have been trying to find whatever situation would make this person happy – tried to create a caring environment for this person so she could let some of her defences down – but nothing has worked and it is now having a very bad effect on me. I feel disillusioned but I know that my disillusionment has nothing to do with her but more to do with my desire (ego?) to “save” her – to think I could do this. I realise now I don’t have enough energy to keep this person above water…so now I am readying myself to walk away.
September 14, 2006 at 1:14 am #17966EmelgeeParticipantI think there is already a book called “Daoism for Dummies” (I am not joking!).
Good points, A. Thanks.
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