Nnonnth

– this is what the wonderful Austin Osman Spare would call an example of ‘The cloudy enemies born of stagnant self-hypnotism’. The guy is probably *still* trying to walk on water right now in his spirit body. He’d hypnotized himself completely and probably did not think he was drowning. Just one more death from religion. At least he didn’t kill…[Read more]

It is all to do with what you think the point is of being alive here and now in a human body. Can you answer that one? Don’t think about doctrines and sutras, just answer!

… at this point I have no wish to enter the argument per se, but I would like to give you a nice quote to chew on, from Franz Bardon’s ‘Practice of Magical Evocation’. I…[Read more]

I’d been looking for that but didn’t know it existed.

Ursula Le Guin (famous f/sf author) produced a ‘translation’ of Tao Te Ching purely from some old word-for-word edition and comparisons with other translators. The result made it sound like she’d written it herself. This made me aware that with these old documents people can basically get…[Read more]

Intelligence me old mucker, you are very bad tempered. I recommend: If you don’t like the forum go somewhere else. You have spent an awful long time here and for what? If you think everyone on the forum is a fool why are you so desperate to talk to them? Why not just leave them to their fooleries and go forth to this greater truth to which you…[Read more]

We *should not* do this at all. We should be very serious and not talk about fairy tales and stroke our beards like sages, but…

Tell us! Tell what Zhang, Sanfeng was capable of! Who doesn’t need to be inspired by excellence occasionally? I don’t know these crazy Taoist guys too well yet, what were their legendary feats?

NN

>>The key is to be one-pointed about everything that you’re doing, 24/7. That’s what the Eastern traditions emphasize<<

It's not only the Eastern traditions which emphasize that either…

"When you are doing any task at all, such as washing the dishes, simply focus all of your attention and concentration on doing exactly what you are doing.…[Read more]

>>I think it was Max that said, every single spiritual path had stillness meditation<<

Sure… but even those you mention are just the big obvious Eastern traditions aren't they? Speaking as a Westerner…

I mean with all three of the people I quoted you are talking about people who have never heard of zen, ch'an, dhyana, son, or indeed…[Read more]

– I’m with you now completely. I just could not understand what you were referring to before, thinking it must be completely different, because you said, ‘You have to practice Zen’! You surely don’t think still that only the Zen people know these states?? As a matter of fact I did not have to learn how to do this and was born already being able…[Read more]

… I don’t have ‘Opening the Dragon Gate’ to hand right now, but as I recall it was a continuous current of force pushing upward. Beats me! NN

… I know of some of these. I do not know how Wang Liping did it in that book since it didn’t sound like the earth element. It might be possible to sit on the earth element alone but you wouldn’t be able to move – it would be like you’d built a little hill.

BTW, what you experience in your dreams sounds like you could be good at OBEs if you wanted! NN

… I think at least two decades for me – let’s hope I’m still young enough to enjoy it.

NN

>>The purpuse includes substantial influencing also.<<

Only government dickheads would see a beautiful technique like that and instantly think – right, who can we influence with our agenda? Jeesh! These *people*…

Not to say that influence is not possible. When you talk to people whilst OB they will think it is their own mind talking.…[Read more]

… so you’ve seen it done then? How marvellous?

Of course I’m sure real life is not like the movies – when is it? (thank god)

I was only meaning to differentiate between these two western methods – which BTW are amongst *the* most advanced things in Bardon, eg. he does not at all recommend training for it until after the adept has merged…[Read more]