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Ryan,
Yeah I have to retract what I origially said. I can totally see how it relates to Taoism now. The strategy part is really gold. If anyone is in a leadership position, be it sports, business, or political, I would highly recommend it. It basically lays out how to be a leader and how to tackle different situations. It is a definite expansion of Sun Tzu, and is just as useful, if not more. Again I will post more as I get through it. The Strategy section is really long, something like 10 sections, so when I finish it I will give a little more detail. Until then,Peace & Tao
ShenchiOK, so the last 3rd of the Thick Black Theory material is actually useful. It is all about leadership and how to test peoples character and what not. So this is where the interesting stuff is. The Thick Black Strategy. Anyway I will keep you informed as I go.
Peace & Tao
ShenchiOK, so I ordered it and I am not so impressed yet. Maybe there is a wealth of information in here that I haven’t gotten to yet, but so far zilch. It’s basically saying be selfish and cruel and you will succeed. I have no clue what it really has to do with Taoism though, or why it came to me through a Taoist E-mail list. It is not very clear either, and bases it’s assumptions on the selfishness of a baby and three Chinese rulers who were cruel and selfish and succeeded. Like I said maybe I will find something useful in the last third of the information, but so far it is basically a justification for the idea of by any means necesary, and a retelling of the ideas of Machiavelli or Aton LaVey. Not really my thing, but I will finish it up and let you know if I find some silver lining of some sort.
Peace & Tao
ShenchiMatthew,
I am not sure of the links, but Oxford, Harvard, and Stanford all have programs for researching Qi and subtle energy. I am not sure how to contact them or get involved in the program but I know they all are researching Qi. I think that Harvard was actually working with Bruce Frantzis for a while. I read some thing about how the research showed that most people didn’t like the work because it made their guts stick out and they found that having their bellies sticking out was not worth the benefits that Qi Gung might provide. Funny how vain people can be. Anyway if you find out any info please share it. Until thenPeace & Tao
Shenchi
Puta Locos,
OK, we get it, your infatuated with my ass, I am just not into man on man ass lovin’, it’s ok if thats what you like, it’s just not my thing. Now go back to your coop and pick up a boy who’s into that, you chicken hawk you. I am sure there are plenty of them at your gym to choose from. Now I know it’s hard for you to do, but please keep my body parts off your mind or at least quit posting about how much you want my body, it’s just not appropriate on this site. Now go find a peg boy to play with you mongaloid pirate you, ARRRRR!Ryan,
I have talked with my father about about Taoist Alchemy and he is glad that I am involved in a spiritual tradition with such strong mystical practices, though he pretty much set in his ways. As far as the use of a K for spelling Kristos, or Krist it is hard to say where it came from. The tradition itself claims to be pre-Catholic and even pre-Bizatene. They claim that their lineage comes directly from Thomas, the brother of Jesus. Thomas eventually went to India to teach so it is hard to say where the Alchemy came from. The tradition also claims some connection with the Essenes (Assenes). So it is hard to say where the Alchemy comes from for sure or why they spell Kristos or Krist with a K. I know that the man is often referred to as Christ but his consciousness is referred to as Krist or Kristos so it might just be a way of denoting the difference between the man and the consciousness that he embodied. Remember that they did not believe that Christ was the one and only son of God, they believed he was teaching a way for humans to become divine and bring heaven and earth together to produce paradise on earth.
I have a feeling that the Alchemy is probably a mix of Kabalistic and Indian traditions, with maybe some Egyption stuff in there. According to the tradition the teachings were kept secret for a very long time and the order was secretive but had devotees from India to Europe; so it is hard to say where it came from for sure and what influenced what. I also know that according to the tradition once someone has realized the Krist consciousness it reveals the process to you. It sounds almost like the whole system and all the teachings are downloaded and the person you were becomes an expression of that consciousness and teachings. It is an almost spontaneous realization of the teachings. It is kind of like when a yogi passes his teachings on with a touch and the student is able to resight sacred texts without ever have learning them. Which makes it seem Indian influenced as that is supposed to be what the later stages of the practices are like, though many traditions claim the same type of spontaneous realization so it is hard to say.
Anyway I think, like a lot of these traditions, it is very hard to trace their lineages for sure. To make matters worse Alchemy has so many Universal or elementary aspects that cross traditions it is difficult to pipoint where it all started and what influenced what. What the tradition itself claims is an Indian, Essene influence, other than that it is hard to say for sure.
Thanks for the response Ryan,
Peac & Tao
ShenchiWOW! This is very interesting to me as my father, in the 60’s, trained with a group of Christian mystics who had a style of alchemy based more on fire and light techniques. They tempered it with earth energy but it was mainly all fire exercises. They called the beginning practices “Baptizm By Fire”. It involves “calling down the light of heaven” and the energy that is created is not Yuan Qi but the Light of the Kristos. Basically the end result is to take on the Krist conciousness and energy body, they call that “taking on the masters mantle”. They beleived that all men and women had the potential to be like Christ or like Mary. They also veiwed the joining of man and woman as the joining of Heaven and Earth. The final result would be the creation of a body of light which would be used to assend into heaven, and to travel back and forth to earth to instill the teaching of the Kristos. Sounds kinda familiar huh? Anyway thanks for the insight as it helps me to further understand the practices my father uses and what he taught me when I was really young. Until next time,
Peace and Tao,
ShenchiPunta Locos,
First you send me pix of you taking it up the butt, then pix of you getting fisted, now your posting vids of your inner colon. Look I know you have a man crush on me but I’m just not into that. I have nothing against it it’s just not my thing. If you want to find somebody to explore your inner colon I am sure there are plenty of peeps in hollywood that would be into that, hey maybe some of your training buddies at your gym could help you out. Anyway good luck with that, I am sure it won’t be too hard, I heard the leather boys are into mongaloid pirates. AHOY MATEY!!!Ryan,
what I am doing is a 9 Palace Ba Gua Zhang form that uses a very old stepping pattern(yes, it is said to date back to the pace of Yu), unfortunately it is kind of secretive. I am not supposed to talk about it too much, but let’s just say the stepping pattern itself is undeniabley powerful. I am just trying to figure out how deep it goes as I have just started the training and I havn’t gotten all the info yet. My speculation is that it can be used as an Alchemy system all its own…. but I shouldn’t say anymore. It’s very cool though and I have a feeling it will help me to further integrate my Nei Dan & Ba Gua practices.Anyway thanx for the info when I get the ok to teach this stuff I will let you know more about it.Peace & Tao
ShenchiPS
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Thanx, that helps to clear things up; not that it really matters, I was just curious why they were slightly different. That makes sense. Anyway thanks again. Until next time,
Peace & Tao
ShenchiSinging Ocean,
Again, thanks. Wow sounds like there is a lot going on in that form. I like what I hear. There are some similarities between the 7 star system and the 9 palaces, but I think they are two totally different systems altogether. I hope I can learn the 7 star system one day so I can compare the 2 back to back.Anyway thanks a lot for the info it has been a real help. Until next time,
Peace & Tao
ShaneSinging Ocean,
Thanks for your response. Between what you and Steven have posted and what I have gotten from Dog’s site I am beginning to put together a picture of how the form works. I do have one question, and maybe Steven already answered this and I need to read closer, but is the energy gathered in the chong mai and mixed there, or is it one of the Tan Tiens? Again thanks for your reply.Peace & Tao
ShenchiSteven,
Once again thanks. That’s exactly the type of info I was looking for. It sounds like a very powerful form. I hope I get the chance try it out first hand. Again thanks for the info that helps to fill in a lot of the blanks.Peace & Tao
Shenchihmmmmm. Ok sounds interesting. My Experience with the 9 palaces is the same in that it seems to get deeper and more powerful as you go. Thanks Dog!
Peace & Tao
Shenchi
