singing ocean

>>”If you look at it from a single point of you, it’s polarized, but if you take all of it as a mass, it’s in harmony.”

I look at it as both, and deal with it on both levels.

So imbalances do not exist? What about your concept of karma and emotional attachment, is that not an imbalance in your cosmology?

Through experience of being faced daily with imbalances, and having the choice to actively balance them or passivley let them be.

It is interesting to note that people who have witnessed unspeakable atrocities such as genocide, or lived through terrible hardship can love life and have a more positive outlook than those who take it for granted living amidst material abundance.

I do also believe that whatever fixed thought patterns that people create for themselves will…[Read more]

“To shape implies using intention and will to actively create yin-yang balance in relation to the life force, to merge or attune implies actively releasing will and intention to harmonize with whatever yin-yang imbalance is present in the life force.”

each achieves a different result.

Greetings Plato,

You may be surprised to see how resilient people in third world countries are in spirit, despite genocide and suffering from disease, poverty etc. They make personal choices every moment how to deal with it. Obviously they also deal with a great amount of pain, probobly more than you have ever inflicted on yourself in all…[Read more]

>>”You say Shape, I say Attune; the differenece is you think you are creating something and I know we are merging or attuning to what already exists, so we can agree to disagree. Both require intention and effort.”

To shape implies using intention and will to actively create yin-yang balance in relation to the life force, to merge or attune…[Read more]

Plato and max,

You should always add that these are of course YOUR OWN OPINIONS. Especially the “Life is suffering with no resolution save death” part, you sho’nuff don’t speak for me. I AM finding resolution and completion.

Live your own life of suffering if that is your choice.

mixing and refining!

I think it would be helpful at this point to look at the exact chinese word that is used, and what the meaning is. It is highly probable that if one is using the term xu or wu, that it is the formless state that is being referred to, the energy body, or the feeling of qi flow, not necessarily the complete absence of everything that emptiness…[Read more]

I thought the name was One Cloud. Can you explain why you call him White Cloud?

Yes, rocks do have spirit, the spirit of the collective consciousness of the earth element. Rocks do not have free will like humans though.

>>”What I am saying is that jing, qi, and shen are everywhere in the body, but that doesn’t prove that the spleen and kidneys have their own INDIVIDUAL shen.”

Do you mean that the spleen and kidneys…[Read more]

On the subject of De, I also think it is more complete to say that Original Nature is yuan shen, yuan qi and yuan jing, not just yuan shen.

You have proved what your point is to you, yes.

How can you say something has intelligence but does not have spirit, or has qi but does not have shen, or has jing but does not have shen? From a Daoist point of view, if something has physical form, it also has a formless aspect that it is simultaneously birthing from and returning to in each…[Read more]

happy disagreements,

According to classical chinese medicine texts all of the vital organ shen have “de”, or a virtue quality.

The intelligence of the kidney is zhi, or will.
The intelligence of the heart is shen, or spirit.
The intelligence of the liver is hun, the evolutionary manifestation into spirit that wants to connect jing and…[Read more]

>>”The Hun, Po, Heart Shen relationship is like yin-yang-yuan”

From my understanding and practice, the kidney – heart relationship is yin and yang. Yuan jing, qi and shen arises from the relationship of those two.

>>”If you dig deep enough, you get past the ego patterns and touch the soul level.
That is behind the wisdom of conventional arranged marriages: you can learn to love anyone, because they are by definition already a part of your greater human self…
If you are with someone because of a deeper soul attraction, then I think the investment is…[Read more]

People are given the freedom to choose their actions, and have to navigate their path of completion. Some can handle it, and others have a very difficult time. Some people are given an easy life and others are heaped with suffering. This is the natural dynamic of yin yang polarity that has become aggravated due to mass murder etc. and left all…[Read more]

Heaven and Earth are in harmony, but they are in a polarized relationship otherwise why would we bother to make the distinction between HEAVEN and EARTH? We would just call it THE FORMLESS. Because of the fact that there is a distinction, it does not mean they ultimately are not in harmony. But because there is a distinction, we DISTINGUISH…[Read more]

>>”I have asked but no one answers.”

We have all answered you, are you listening? Basically, the answer was that humanity REFLECTS the separation between heaven and earth (form and formless) in a number of ways microscosmically.

I think you are looking for an ABSOLUTE STATE, an ultimate unmoving static answer, whereas we are saying it is a…[Read more]